Anyone:
Is it possible to install the SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services design
component for Visual Studio 2003 into Visual Studio 2005 Express to design
reports that will be deployed to Reporting Services running on SQL Server
2000? Thank you in advance for your time.No, this is not possible. RS 2000 Report Designer requires VS 2003.
--
Albert Yen
SQL Server Reporting Services
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"Nikolai Sonin" <NikolaiSonin@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone:
> Is it possible to install the SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services
> design
> component for Visual Studio 2003 into Visual Studio 2005 Express to design
> reports that will be deployed to Reporting Services running on SQL Server
> 2000? Thank you in advance for your time.|||I have an MSDN subscription and just installed both SQL Server 2005 Beta
tools and Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2 - I'm assuming:
1.) That SQL Server 2005 has a Report Designer
2.) That the SQL Server 2005 Report Designer will plug into Visual
Studio 2005
3.) That the SQL Server 2005 Report Designer inside of Visual Studio
2005 will work on SQL Server 2000 Databases
4.) That there is some way of importing reports designed in SQL Server
2000 Report Designer into the SQL Server 2005 Report Designer.
Could you tell me which of these are true?
"Albert Yen [MSFT]" wrote:
> No, this is not possible. RS 2000 Report Designer requires VS 2003.
> --
> Albert Yen
> SQL Server Reporting Services
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> "Nikolai Sonin" <NikolaiSonin@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B5728FFD-6C1A-4C59-A3A7-C415C4436DFD@.microsoft.com...
> > Anyone:
> > Is it possible to install the SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services
> > design
> > component for Visual Studio 2003 into Visual Studio 2005 Express to design
> > reports that will be deployed to Reporting Services running on SQL Server
> > 2000? Thank you in advance for your time.
>
>
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Showing posts with label designing. Show all posts
Wednesday, March 7, 2012
Designing reusable column transformations?
We receive thousands of files every week from various clients and we attempt to clean the columns using the same technique over and over so the data is consistent. The problem is I dont see a way to reuse complex column transformations in different packages. I would hate to have to go change every package if we change the rules for cleaning a column.
So #1: Can you create some kind of script or .net function that cleans a column and reuse it in multiple packages (or even in the same package)?
#2: Is it possible to call functions from the Derived Column expression builder?
Thanks!
1)May be. You always can use a script component with the transformation rules and copy and paste it many times; it that sounds reasonable to you.
2) No you can not.
|||
Craig, I have had do do the same thign.The best solution is not a script component, as the person above mentioned.
Take the hit, build a custom component. Once you get it built, adding a new column is as simple as adding a new column to the transform.
You will want to build a custom pipline component. Both Wrox and O'riely have some decent chapters decribing how to do this. and there is definately info in microsoft.
I have 350 packages, that all chagne time from european time to us time, in the data flow. By writing 1 component, once, I was able to then delegate the rest of the work, since the hard part was encapsulated in a compoent.
good luck
Designing reports without Visual Studio .NET 2003
I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find any
documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
.NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA, Inc.
Hartford, CT
http://www.cafca.org
chriss@.crtct.orgHere is some information.
http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
Chris Shipley wrote:
> I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find any
> documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
> .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA, Inc.
> Hartford, CT
> http://www.cafca.org
> chriss@.crtct.org
>|||Microsoft also have a sample app for creating RDL.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/rsamples/htm/rss_tutorials_v1_02ua.asp
Combine this with the sample code for accessing the reporting services web
servic
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/rsamples/htm/rss_sampleapps_v1_002q.asp
With these two set of examples you can write a program to create rdl,
publish it to the web service and view it within an application. The
complexity will be trying to generate more complex reports as the sample
provided on msdn only generates simple rdl. Easiest way I found to start
writing code to generate more complex rdl was to use the sample RDL program
to generate a report, load this report in vs.net and make some changes then
compare the modified rdl with your original and retro-fit the changes in to
the code. With a lot of time (and hair pulling) you can ultimately generate
fairly complex RDL.
Hope this helps,
Richard
"Jerry" wrote:
> Here is some information.
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
>
> Chris Shipley wrote:
> > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find any
> > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
> > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA, Inc.
> > Hartford, CT
> > http://www.cafca.org
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> >
>|||Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with over
500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for a
way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web secured
through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
very cost effective.
Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem an
effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing a
VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA
Hartford, CT
Ph: 860-560-5455
http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
chriss@.crtct.org
"Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Here is some information.
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
>
> Chris Shipley wrote:
> > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find
any
> > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
Studio
> > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA, Inc.
> > Hartford, CT
> > http://www.cafca.org
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> >|||Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You may
want to check:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report design
tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application (independent
of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows them
to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features in
RS 2005 in this webcast:
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with over
> 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for a
> way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web secured
> through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
> very cost effective.
> Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
> either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem
an
> effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing a
> VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA
> Hartford, CT
> Ph: 860-560-5455
> http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> chriss@.crtct.org
> "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Here is some information.
> >
> > http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find
> any
> > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
> Studio
> > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Shipley
> > > HSI System Administrator
> > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > Hartford, CT
> > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > >
> > >
>|||Thanks Robert.
Is there a beta version of RS 2005?
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA
Hartford, CT
Ph: 860-560-5455
http://www.cafca.org
chriss@.crtct.org
"Robert Bruckner [MSFT]" <robruc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uN%23$chyBFHA.1452@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
> creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
> designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You may
> want to check:
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
> If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report design
> tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application (independent
> of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows them
> to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
> expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features
in
> RS 2005 in this webcast:
>
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> "Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
> news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with
over
> > 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for
a
> > way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web
secured
> > through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
> > very cost effective.
> >
> > Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> > objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
> > either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem
> an
> > effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing
a
> > VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA
> > Hartford, CT
> > Ph: 860-560-5455
> > http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> > "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Here is some information.
> > >
> > >
http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to
find
> > any
> > > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
> > Studio
> > > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Shipley
> > > > HSI System Administrator
> > > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > > Hartford, CT
> > > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>|||Yes, there is a Beta program for SQL Server 2005 (which includes RS 2005).
More information can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/default.asp
If you are a MSDN subscriber you should also have access to SQL Server CTPs
(Community Technology Previews). Report Builder is a completely new product
and not yet available in the December CTP, but it will be included in SQL
Server 2005 Beta 3 and very likely already in one of the upcoming CTPs.
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
news:eApnSOMCFHA.328@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Robert.
> Is there a beta version of RS 2005?
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA
> Hartford, CT
> Ph: 860-560-5455
> http://www.cafca.org
> chriss@.crtct.org
> "Robert Bruckner [MSFT]" <robruc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uN%23$chyBFHA.1452@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
> > creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
> > designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You
may
> > want to check:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
> >
> > If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report
design
> > tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application
(independent
> > of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows
them
> > to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
> > expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features
> in
> > RS 2005 in this webcast:
> >
>
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
> >
> > --
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> >
> > "Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with
> over
> > > 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking
for
> a
> > > way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web
> secured
> > > through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its
not
> > > very cost effective.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> > > objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have
VS.NET
> > > either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't
seem
> > an
> > > effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already
writing
> a
> > > VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Shipley
> > > HSI System Administrator
> > > CAFCA
> > > Hartford, CT
> > > Ph: 860-560-5455
> > > http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > >
> > > "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Here is some information.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to
> find
> > > any
> > > > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without
Visual
> > > Studio
> > > > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chris Shipley
> > > > > HSI System Administrator
> > > > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > > > Hartford, CT
> > > > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
.NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA, Inc.
Hartford, CT
http://www.cafca.org
chriss@.crtct.orgHere is some information.
http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
Chris Shipley wrote:
> I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find any
> documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
> .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA, Inc.
> Hartford, CT
> http://www.cafca.org
> chriss@.crtct.org
>|||Microsoft also have a sample app for creating RDL.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/rsamples/htm/rss_tutorials_v1_02ua.asp
Combine this with the sample code for accessing the reporting services web
servic
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/rsamples/htm/rss_sampleapps_v1_002q.asp
With these two set of examples you can write a program to create rdl,
publish it to the web service and view it within an application. The
complexity will be trying to generate more complex reports as the sample
provided on msdn only generates simple rdl. Easiest way I found to start
writing code to generate more complex rdl was to use the sample RDL program
to generate a report, load this report in vs.net and make some changes then
compare the modified rdl with your original and retro-fit the changes in to
the code. With a lot of time (and hair pulling) you can ultimately generate
fairly complex RDL.
Hope this helps,
Richard
"Jerry" wrote:
> Here is some information.
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
>
> Chris Shipley wrote:
> > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find any
> > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual Studio
> > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA, Inc.
> > Hartford, CT
> > http://www.cafca.org
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> >
>|||Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with over
500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for a
way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web secured
through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
very cost effective.
Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem an
effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing a
VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA
Hartford, CT
Ph: 860-560-5455
http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
chriss@.crtct.org
"Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Here is some information.
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
>
> Chris Shipley wrote:
> > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find
any
> > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
Studio
> > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA, Inc.
> > Hartford, CT
> > http://www.cafca.org
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> >|||Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You may
want to check:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report design
tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application (independent
of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows them
to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features in
RS 2005 in this webcast:
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with over
> 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for a
> way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web secured
> through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
> very cost effective.
> Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
> either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem
an
> effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing a
> VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA
> Hartford, CT
> Ph: 860-560-5455
> http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> chriss@.crtct.org
> "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Here is some information.
> >
> > http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to find
> any
> > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
> Studio
> > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Shipley
> > > HSI System Administrator
> > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > Hartford, CT
> > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > >
> > >
>|||Thanks Robert.
Is there a beta version of RS 2005?
--
Chris Shipley
HSI System Administrator
CAFCA
Hartford, CT
Ph: 860-560-5455
http://www.cafca.org
chriss@.crtct.org
"Robert Bruckner [MSFT]" <robruc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uN%23$chyBFHA.1452@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
> creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
> designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You may
> want to check:
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
> If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report design
> tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application (independent
> of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows them
> to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
> expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features
in
> RS 2005 in this webcast:
>
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> "Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
> news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with
over
> > 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking for
a
> > way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web
secured
> > through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its not
> > very cost effective.
> >
> > Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> > objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have VS.NET
> > either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't seem
> an
> > effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already writing
a
> > VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> >
> > --
> > Chris Shipley
> > HSI System Administrator
> > CAFCA
> > Hartford, CT
> > Ph: 860-560-5455
> > http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> > chriss@.crtct.org
> >
> > "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Here is some information.
> > >
> > >
http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to
find
> > any
> > > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without Visual
> > Studio
> > > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Shipley
> > > > HSI System Administrator
> > > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > > Hartford, CT
> > > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>|||Yes, there is a Beta program for SQL Server 2005 (which includes RS 2005).
More information can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/default.asp
If you are a MSDN subscriber you should also have access to SQL Server CTPs
(Community Technology Previews). Report Builder is a completely new product
and not yet available in the December CTP, but it will be included in SQL
Server 2005 Beta 3 and very likely already in one of the upcoming CTPs.
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
news:eApnSOMCFHA.328@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Robert.
> Is there a beta version of RS 2005?
> --
> Chris Shipley
> HSI System Administrator
> CAFCA
> Hartford, CT
> Ph: 860-560-5455
> http://www.cafca.org
> chriss@.crtct.org
> "Robert Bruckner [MSFT]" <robruc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uN%23$chyBFHA.1452@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Several partners provide applications for RS 2000 that will allow the
> > creation of reports without using VS.NET. Some of them provide web-based
> > designers, some of them provide tools integrated e.g. into Office. You
may
> > want to check:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/partners/softwareapps.asp
> >
> > If you can wait till RS 2005, it will provide an additional report
design
> > tool called "Report Builder". It is a stand-alone application
(independent
> > of the VS.NET report designer) and is focused on end-users. It allows
them
> > to easily create reports without needing to design queries or writing
> > expressions. Report Builder was briefly shown as one of the new features
> in
> > RS 2005 in this webcast:
> >
>
http://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?eventid=1032263305&culture=en-us
> >
> > --
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> >
> > "Chris Shipley" <chriss@.crtct.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23HOyS7sBFHA.1408@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Hey, thanks for that! See, I have this huge database (1.3+ gb) with
> over
> > > 500 users, but there's no good reporting tool for them. I'm looking
for
> a
> > > way to give them a visual report writing tool, perhaps on the web
> secured
> > > through SSL. But if they have to use VS.NET to create a report, its
not
> > > very cost effective.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there know of any resources I can look at to achieve my
> > > objective? I'd utilize SQL Reporting Services, but I don't have
VS.NET
> > > either. I suppose if I had to, I could learn RDL, but that doesn't
seem
> > an
> > > effective method for users. Maybe someone out there is already
writing
> a
> > > VS.NET program for that purpose! :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Shipley
> > > HSI System Administrator
> > > CAFCA
> > > Hartford, CT
> > > Ph: 860-560-5455
> > > http://www.cafca.org/helpdesk
> > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > >
> > > "Jerry" <JerryNY32513@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uvPSGLkBFHA.2568@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Here is some information.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.ReportingServicesFAQ.com/ow.asp?ReportingWithoutVisualStudio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris Shipley wrote:
> > > > > I'm really interested in Reporting Services, but I can't seem to
> find
> > > any
> > > > > documentation on how to write reports and utilize it without
Visual
> > > Studio
> > > > > .NET 2003. Is there any way to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chris Shipley
> > > > > HSI System Administrator
> > > > > CAFCA, Inc.
> > > > > Hartford, CT
> > > > > http://www.cafca.org
> > > > > chriss@.crtct.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Designing reports with Reproting Services
I'm no graphic designer but I am really struggling with making a decent looking report.
Does anyone have any ideas or tips when working with reporting services?
Hi,
I'm no expert either, but what works for me is designing a report template which has the basics, and use that as a starting place for all subsequent reports. The template contains a page footer which contains the date the report was run, the name of our office and "page # out of total pages".
Starting with this generic template I add a page header which contains the report name and any selection criteria which is input by the user at run-time. On to content: I output data in the order specified by users and use bold for all headings to increase readability. Where appropriate the Reporting Services' "groupby" feature also increases clarity by allowing you to suppress duplicate values on the print-out.
Hope this helps!
Saturday, February 25, 2012
Designing Reports for SQL Reporting Services 2000
My customer has SQL Reporting Services on a server with SQL 2000 Standard Edition. The customer wants to develop his own Reporting Services reports. We have been recommending Visual Basic.NET Standard 2003 for this purpose in that it costs less than $100 (usually). However, with the advent of Visual Studio 2005, the VB.NET 2003 is becoming difficult or impossible to obtain. One option is Visual C#.NET Standard 2003 - I assume it will work - does anyone know for sure?
More importantly, when Visual C#.NET 2003 becomes unvailable, what options are left for developing RS 2000 reports?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Mark
>More importantly, when Visual C#.NET 2003 becomes unvailable, what options are left for developing RS 2000 reports?
None from Microsoft. There are third-party solutions, e.g. Cizer.
|||You could also write a small tool that performs a RDL structure "downgrade" conversion (see e.g. http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=988366&SiteID=1). However note that RS 2000 doesn't support a number of RS 2005 features (e.g. multi value parameters).
-- Robert
designing reports
Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
services.
Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with the
visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio .net
2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
both!
Thanks PaulThe designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
Bruce Loehle-Conger
MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
"Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> services.
> Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
the
> visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
.net
> 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> both!
> Thanks Paul|||Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
Actuate...
"Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
>
> --
> Bruce Loehle-Conger
> MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > services.
> >
> > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> the
> > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> ..net
> > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > both!
> >
> > Thanks Paul
>
>|||Hi Paul,
We too are evaluating products to migrate from Actuate. I can share our
findings if you're interested.
Bill
"Paul" wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> Actuate...
> "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> >
> > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > the
> > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > ..net
> > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > both!
> > >
> > > Thanks Paul
> >
> >
> >|||Hi Paul,
I have a lot of experience with Actuate (8 years) and am currently getting
up to speed on Reporting Services.
Let me know if you'd like to exchange information/experiences on migrating
from Actuate to Reporting Services.
-- Chris
--
Chris, SSSI
"Paul" wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> Actuate...
> "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> >
> > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > the
> > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > ..net
> > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > both!
> > >
> > > Thanks Paul
> >
> >
> >|||Hi Bill,
I have a lot of experience with Actuate (8 years) and am currently getting
up to speed on Reporting Services.
Let me know if you'd like to exchange information/experiences on migrating
from Actuate to Reporting Services.
-- Chris
Chris, SSSI
"Bill" wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> We too are evaluating products to migrate from Actuate. I can share our
> findings if you're interested.
> Bill
> "Paul" wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> > Actuate...
> >
> > "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> > >
> > > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > > the
> > > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > > ..net
> > > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > > both!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
services.
Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with the
visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio .net
2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
both!
Thanks PaulThe designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
Bruce Loehle-Conger
MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
"Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> services.
> Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
the
> visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
.net
> 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> both!
> Thanks Paul|||Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
Actuate...
"Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
>
> --
> Bruce Loehle-Conger
> MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > services.
> >
> > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> the
> > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> ..net
> > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > both!
> >
> > Thanks Paul
>
>|||Hi Paul,
We too are evaluating products to migrate from Actuate. I can share our
findings if you're interested.
Bill
"Paul" wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> Actuate...
> "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> >
> > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > the
> > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > ..net
> > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > both!
> > >
> > > Thanks Paul
> >
> >
> >|||Hi Paul,
I have a lot of experience with Actuate (8 years) and am currently getting
up to speed on Reporting Services.
Let me know if you'd like to exchange information/experiences on migrating
from Actuate to Reporting Services.
-- Chris
--
Chris, SSSI
"Paul" wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> Actuate...
> "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> >
> > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > the
> > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > ..net
> > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > both!
> > >
> > > Thanks Paul
> >
> >
> >|||Hi Bill,
I have a lot of experience with Actuate (8 years) and am currently getting
up to speed on Reporting Services.
Let me know if you'd like to exchange information/experiences on migrating
from Actuate to Reporting Services.
-- Chris
Chris, SSSI
"Bill" wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> We too are evaluating products to migrate from Actuate. I can share our
> findings if you're interested.
> Bill
> "Paul" wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Bruce! We have SQL server but are hoping to migrate from
> > Actuate...
> >
> > "Bruce L-C [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > The designer comes free with SQL Server (you need a license for SQL Server
> > > anywhere you have the server part of RS installed). But, the designer needs
> > > some version (any version) of VS to install into. If you don't have VS 2003
> > > then the cheapest thing to do is to buy VB.Net ($100).
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Loehle-Conger
> > > MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> > >
> > > "Paul" <Paul@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ED6BE78D-8085-4A3A-8F01-6BD0408734D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Hi - we are just putting a proposal/costs together to implement reporting
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > Might seem daft (!), I know i need the report designer and it works with
> > > the
> > > > visual studio .net 2003, but does that mean we need to buy visual studio
> > > ..net
> > > > 2003 (std/dev/enterprise?) and the designer comes free? Or vice versa? Or
> > > > both!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
Designing Report in VS.NET2003 - studio is crashing
I am using reporting services 2000 already for 2 years. This problem is occurring on 2-3 reports, I can't say exactly what is the reason.
How I use the report designer is pretty simple and consistent. Report data is usualy produced by calling a stored procedure (on SLQ server 2000), I have a few parameters. Some of Paramaters are dates with a default values calculated to give yesterday's date or today - 7 days. And that is the only code in the report itselft. As soon as I click on Yes/No paramater, that doesn't have default, and is int in proc and report, then complete Visual Studio Environment starts flashing, making bip-bip noise, and is blocked, no access and reponse. I can't close it for a while, I can't bring up task manager, and in general this crash is very much resource intensive, Outlook is freezing, can't open IE, new spreadsheet. I am working on windows Xp platform. Eventually I would manage to close VS thru task manager.
As soon as this report is uploaded to Report Manager, the place where all the reports are available to users, on different server, the same report works fine.
Has anyone experienced this and what would be the reason.
Thanks in advance,
Elizabeta R
did you get out of memory exception.. check ur database may be it contains huge data..
run the query in sql server..
Designing relational tables
Hi, not sure if this is the right forum for this question.
I am creating relational tables for the first time in sql server express. I will have an orderItems table and an orders table. the MenuItems table is the problem. It is a catalogue of books. There will be about ten columns. all are unique to each book. i.e isbn number, title, author, publisher etc. but ten columns seems to be quite cumbersome. it may be easier to break the table down into two tables (i.e. primary details and secondary details perhaps) However to populate the table in the first place it would be easier to have it as one table instead of opening and closing 2 tables Adding the odd book to the two tables in the future would not be a problem. so the question is can i create a table and then brak it into two relational tables afterwards. If so how do i do this. this is my foirst go at relational tables and i am still trying to get a handle on visualising them. If my logic is up the wall please let me know...
Nick
Yes you can do this. Once you have your "big" table populated simply create the second smaller table and just execute an update statement:
update mySmallTable
set field1 = b.field1
, field2 = b.field2
, field3 = b.field3
from myBigTable b
Great. Im really moving forward now. thanks for your time
Nick
Designing Primary Key and Clustered Index and Performance
I have several tables where the clustered index (the
physical way the data is stored) is different from the
Primary Key (which is just a unique number). It seems to
me that this will help me the most, as the clustered
index supports my SELECT statements, and the Primary Key
column will support my UPDATE and DELETE statements. I
am very new to SQL Server. My question is this. Is
designing the tables this way ok to do, or is this not
how it should be done?
Second part of my question is, If what I am doing is
fine, then does it make a difference (performance wise)
if I have the Primary Key column the first column table
or about the seventh column in?
Thanks so much for your help.Depends on who you ask. Zealots will say that you should never, ever use an
arbitrary unique integer as a row identifier. I disagree. However,
whenever possible, even if you are using a unique identifier you should
attempt to set a 'natural' primary key based on uniqueness in your data, and
use this for your primary key rather than the row identifier. You can still
use the ID to make life simpler (e.g. passing back lists of rows to client
applications for singleton selection), but the primary key will help
maintain and validate the table's data.
As for location within the column list, it makes no difference where
anything is. Don't rely on the ordering of your column list. Always
specify explicit column lists in the order you want them for selects and
inserts.
"Nancy" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:052b01c3aee5$09ea4e00$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> I have several tables where the clustered index (the
> physical way the data is stored) is different from the
> Primary Key (which is just a unique number). It seems to
> me that this will help me the most, as the clustered
> index supports my SELECT statements, and the Primary Key
> column will support my UPDATE and DELETE statements. I
> am very new to SQL Server. My question is this. Is
> designing the tables this way ok to do, or is this not
> how it should be done?
> Second part of my question is, If what I am doing is
> fine, then does it make a difference (performance wise)
> if I have the Primary Key column the first column table
> or about the seventh column in?
> Thanks so much for your help.|||Placing the clustered index on a column other than the primary key is often
wise.
You only get ONE clustered index per table so use it wisely (Which is what I
believe you are doing).
If you are new to SQL Server, welcome to the community.
I recommend starting with these 3 books:
1. Inside SQL Server 2000 by Kalen Delaney
2. Professional SQL Server 2000 Programming By Robert Vieira
3. Transact-SQL Programming by Kline
Cheers
Greg Jackson
Portland, OR
physical way the data is stored) is different from the
Primary Key (which is just a unique number). It seems to
me that this will help me the most, as the clustered
index supports my SELECT statements, and the Primary Key
column will support my UPDATE and DELETE statements. I
am very new to SQL Server. My question is this. Is
designing the tables this way ok to do, or is this not
how it should be done?
Second part of my question is, If what I am doing is
fine, then does it make a difference (performance wise)
if I have the Primary Key column the first column table
or about the seventh column in?
Thanks so much for your help.Depends on who you ask. Zealots will say that you should never, ever use an
arbitrary unique integer as a row identifier. I disagree. However,
whenever possible, even if you are using a unique identifier you should
attempt to set a 'natural' primary key based on uniqueness in your data, and
use this for your primary key rather than the row identifier. You can still
use the ID to make life simpler (e.g. passing back lists of rows to client
applications for singleton selection), but the primary key will help
maintain and validate the table's data.
As for location within the column list, it makes no difference where
anything is. Don't rely on the ordering of your column list. Always
specify explicit column lists in the order you want them for selects and
inserts.
"Nancy" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:052b01c3aee5$09ea4e00$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> I have several tables where the clustered index (the
> physical way the data is stored) is different from the
> Primary Key (which is just a unique number). It seems to
> me that this will help me the most, as the clustered
> index supports my SELECT statements, and the Primary Key
> column will support my UPDATE and DELETE statements. I
> am very new to SQL Server. My question is this. Is
> designing the tables this way ok to do, or is this not
> how it should be done?
> Second part of my question is, If what I am doing is
> fine, then does it make a difference (performance wise)
> if I have the Primary Key column the first column table
> or about the seventh column in?
> Thanks so much for your help.|||Placing the clustered index on a column other than the primary key is often
wise.
You only get ONE clustered index per table so use it wisely (Which is what I
believe you are doing).
If you are new to SQL Server, welcome to the community.
I recommend starting with these 3 books:
1. Inside SQL Server 2000 by Kalen Delaney
2. Professional SQL Server 2000 Programming By Robert Vieira
3. Transact-SQL Programming by Kline
Cheers
Greg Jackson
Portland, OR
Designing inventory system
Hi
Good Day!
I am designing a database to manage an Inventory system. I have two tables in it - Receives and Issues with two common fields -ProductID and Quantity.
I need some facilities in the database -
# Current Stock - Two fields - ProductID & BalanceQty. I want to get the balance quantity for a given product.
# Product Ledger - I want to have a ledger of product transaction with Date, ReceiveQty, IssueQty, Balance.
How can I have these facilities? Should I use a SProc or View? I need some expert openion. Please give me some details example. I am very new in SQLServer.
Thnk you very much!
Regards
Kapalic
Your question isn't really very clear to me, but it is really down to what you are using the data for. I would say stored procedure if this is used in a user interface (particularly in a single location), or a view if you want to be able to access the data in multiple locations, or perhaps for ad-hoc access...I am in favor of using stored procedures for all access to the database in your user interfaces to make things easier to maintain and use.|||
I agree with Louis. A stored procedure will be easier to maintain and easier to secure.
You definitely want the [CurrentStock].[BalanceQty] values to be dynamically calculated -and not static data stored in a table.
|||You can use a stroed procedure where you can pass the ProductId & you can get the BalanceQty & other details - it should be handy
|||Thnx guys for ur answers. Actually I couldn't make myself clear.
Can anyone please give me an example how to write these sprocs? I need to check if enough product exist in the receive table before issueing a product in the issue table.
Thnx!
|||If you mean protecting against over promising stock, if the tables are in the same database, I would use two techniques:
1. Stored procedure to calculate available stock when the user asks for the list (like when a user of Amazon goes to the page of a product and it says they have 3 in stock
2. A trigger that prevents an order from being placed without stock being available.
The second one will be a bit, because you will likely want to let the user backorder a product, but your order item for a product should be clearly marked as that, so the user doesn't get stuck waiting forever. So the calculation of available stock must take into consideration:
1. Will this product be stocked again (status of the product)
2. It there stock to cover the order now, even if there was when the user chose to order it, if not reject the line item, unless the user has specifically said "okay to back order"
But I would use a trigger to make sure that the status of the line item matched the expectation of order.
|||Thnx Buddys!
I've written a view to show all the product with current stocks (PurchaseQty - IssueQty - DamageQty). And a sproc to wrap the view.
But I can't get an way to show a ledger for individual products, like -
Date Product PurchaseQty IssueQty DamageQty BalanceQty
Regards
Kapalic
|||Use a WHERE clause, passing in the ProductID -both in the stored procedure and the VIEW.
Very similar to the code we wrote for you last week.
Designing inventory system
Hi
Good Day!
I am designing a database to manage an Inventory system. I have two tables in it - Receives and Issues with two common fields -ProductID and Quantity.
I need some facilities in the database -
# Current Stock - Two fields - ProductID & BalanceQty. I want to get the balance quantity for a given product.
# Product Ledger - I want to have a ledger of product transaction with Date, ReceiveQty, IssueQty, Balance.
How can I have these facilities? Should I use a SProc or View? I need some expert openion. Please give me some details example. I am very new in SQLServer.
Thnk you very much!
Regards
Kapalic
Your question isn't really very clear to me, but it is really down to what you are using the data for. I would say stored procedure if this is used in a user interface (particularly in a single location), or a view if you want to be able to access the data in multiple locations, or perhaps for ad-hoc access...I am in favor of using stored procedures for all access to the database in your user interfaces to make things easier to maintain and use.|||
I agree with Louis. A stored procedure will be easier to maintain and easier to secure.
You definitely want the [CurrentStock].[BalanceQty] values to be dynamically calculated -and not static data stored in a table.
|||You can use a stroed procedure where you can pass the ProductId & you can get the BalanceQty & other details - it should be handy
|||Thnx guys for ur answers. Actually I couldn't make myself clear.
Can anyone please give me an example how to write these sprocs? I need to check if enough product exist in the receive table before issueing a product in the issue table.
Thnx!
|||If you mean protecting against over promising stock, if the tables are in the same database, I would use two techniques:
1. Stored procedure to calculate available stock when the user asks for the list (like when a user of Amazon goes to the page of a product and it says they have 3 in stock
2. A trigger that prevents an order from being placed without stock being available.
The second one will be a bit, because you will likely want to let the user backorder a product, but your order item for a product should be clearly marked as that, so the user doesn't get stuck waiting forever. So the calculation of available stock must take into consideration:
1. Will this product be stocked again (status of the product)
2. It there stock to cover the order now, even if there was when the user chose to order it, if not reject the line item, unless the user has specifically said "okay to back order"
But I would use a trigger to make sure that the status of the line item matched the expectation of order.
|||Thnx Buddys!
I've written a view to show all the product with current stocks (PurchaseQty - IssueQty - DamageQty). And a sproc to wrap the view.
But I can't get an way to show a ledger for individual products, like -
Date Product PurchaseQty IssueQty DamageQty BalanceQty
Regards
Kapalic
|||Use a WHERE clause, passing in the ProductID -both in the stored procedure and the VIEW.
Very similar to the code we wrote for you last week.
designing inheriting entities
Dear All,
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
.........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincer
Emre DNER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
David Portas
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
.........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincer
Emre DNER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
David Portas
designing inheriting entities
Dear All,
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like university offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like university one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincerEmre D=DDN=C7ER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like university offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like university one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCente=[/vbcol
]
rs[vbcol=seagreen]
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when =[/vbcol
]
it[vbcol=seagreen]
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
David Portas
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like university offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like university one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincerEmre D=DDN=C7ER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like university offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like university one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCente=[/vbcol
]
rs[vbcol=seagreen]
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when =[/vbcol
]
it[vbcol=seagreen]
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
David Portas
designing inheriting entities
Dear All,
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincerEmre D=DDN=C7ER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCente=rs
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when =it
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
--
David Portas
our customer has 3 kinds of entites
the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
exams...
and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
etc.. these types goes to another table..
and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCenters
of the customer..
the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when it
is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
........
i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
inheriting entities..
any clue?
best regards..
emre dincerEmre D=DDN=C7ER wrote:
> Dear All,
> our customer has 3 kinds of entites
> the first one is the ApplicationCenter where students can register to
> exams...
> and there are types of app centers like University offices, high schools
> etc.. these types goes to another table..
> and finally each type has its own instances like University one ,
> university2 , univ3 etc. which means there are several more tables Like
> universities , highschools , examCenters etc...
> the requirement is to have ADD/Edit/Delete screens of all ApplicationCente=rs
> of the customer..
> the listing of the centers and their info is straightforward however when =it
> is time to edit many entities needs to be updated at the same time
> ........
> i am trying to figure out a table design where i can build sort of
> inheriting entities..
> any clue?
> best regards..
> emre dincer
It is possible to ensure that each common attribute appears only in
one place in the hierarchy for each type of entity. Therefore the
problem of updating the same attribute in multiple places won't arise.
Fifth Normal Form and the Principle of Orthogonal Design are two
principles that will help you achieve a good model. Google for them if
you aren't already familiar with them.
--
David Portas
designing history tables
Could some one please point me to a good resource on how to design history
tables in a dataware house situation'
For example, in the case of products table, if product description got
changed over time after the product was purchased. The old invoice still
shows the old description but the table reflects the new one.
How could some one keep track of both descriptions?
What would be a good design/architecture'
TIA...Well, the invoices table should contain a relatively permanent piece of
data, such as a ProductID of some kind, not a much more flexible piece of
information like a description.
That said, it may still be useful to store the history of a product.
Probably the simplest in this very specific case would be:
CREATE TABLE dbo.ProductDescriptionHistory
(
ProductID INT NOT NULL
FOREIGN KEY REFERENCES dbo.Products(ProductID),
Description VARCHAR(255),
EffectiveDate SMALLDATETIME
)
This will allow you to reconstruct invoices from the past, with the correct
"at the time" description, without bloating the invoices table with a big
VARCHAR that will usually be redundant.
You will probably come across the same dilemma with price... do you store
price data for products where the price may or may not change, or do you
just reference the productID?
Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the historic
descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actually
change.
"sqlster" <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F41C612-B1AB-441F-AED7-26F4C7ABEA09@.microsoft.com...
> Could some one please point me to a good resource on how to design history
> tables in a dataware house situation'
> For example, in the case of products table, if product description got
> changed over time after the product was purchased. The old invoice still
> shows the old description but the table reflects the new one.
> How could some one keep track of both descriptions?
> What would be a good design/architecture'
> TIA...|||<Aaron>
Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the historic
descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actually
change.
</Aaron>
I need the historic descriptions for the reporting purposes only. Some of
the values could change 10 - 15 times a month.
Thanks
"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" wrote:
> Well, the invoices table should contain a relatively permanent piece of
> data, such as a ProductID of some kind, not a much more flexible piece of
> information like a description.
> That said, it may still be useful to store the history of a product.
> Probably the simplest in this very specific case would be:
> CREATE TABLE dbo.ProductDescriptionHistory
> (
> ProductID INT NOT NULL
> FOREIGN KEY REFERENCES dbo.Products(ProductID),
> Description VARCHAR(255),
> EffectiveDate SMALLDATETIME
> )
> This will allow you to reconstruct invoices from the past, with the correc
t
> "at the time" description, without bloating the invoices table with a big
> VARCHAR that will usually be redundant.
> You will probably come across the same dilemma with price... do you store
> price data for products where the price may or may not change, or do you
> just reference the productID?
> Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
> information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the histori
c
> descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actual
ly
> change.
>
> "sqlster" <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:3F41C612-B1AB-441F-AED7-26F4C7ABEA09@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||Keep who changed the rows and when in separate columns in the archive table.
You might also want to keep a record of whether the row in the main table wa
s
updated or deleted.
E.g.:
Main table:
Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN
Archive table:
Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN : ChangedDateTime : ChangedBy : ChangeType
Of course changes are propagated to the archive table via triggers on the
main table (for update and for delete).
For a more elaborate solution, please at least provide DDL.
ML
http://milambda.blogspot.com/|||ML,
I am just looking for some books/websites/articles that address good history
table design. The example that I brought up is just a hypothetical example s
o
I don't have any DDL.
TIA..
"ML" wrote:
> Keep who changed the rows and when in separate columns in the archive tabl
e.
> You might also want to keep a record of whether the row in the main table
was
> updated or deleted.
> E.g.:
> Main table:
> Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN
> Archive table:
> Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN : ChangedDateTime : ChangedBy : ChangeType
> Of course changes are propagated to the archive table via triggers on the
> main table (for update and for delete).
> For a more elaborate solution, please at least provide DDL.
>
> ML
> --
> http://milambda.blogspot.com/
tables in a dataware house situation'
For example, in the case of products table, if product description got
changed over time after the product was purchased. The old invoice still
shows the old description but the table reflects the new one.
How could some one keep track of both descriptions?
What would be a good design/architecture'
TIA...Well, the invoices table should contain a relatively permanent piece of
data, such as a ProductID of some kind, not a much more flexible piece of
information like a description.
That said, it may still be useful to store the history of a product.
Probably the simplest in this very specific case would be:
CREATE TABLE dbo.ProductDescriptionHistory
(
ProductID INT NOT NULL
FOREIGN KEY REFERENCES dbo.Products(ProductID),
Description VARCHAR(255),
EffectiveDate SMALLDATETIME
)
This will allow you to reconstruct invoices from the past, with the correct
"at the time" description, without bloating the invoices table with a big
VARCHAR that will usually be redundant.
You will probably come across the same dilemma with price... do you store
price data for products where the price may or may not change, or do you
just reference the productID?
Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the historic
descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actually
change.
"sqlster" <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F41C612-B1AB-441F-AED7-26F4C7ABEA09@.microsoft.com...
> Could some one please point me to a good resource on how to design history
> tables in a dataware house situation'
> For example, in the case of products table, if product description got
> changed over time after the product was purchased. The old invoice still
> shows the old description but the table reflects the new one.
> How could some one keep track of both descriptions?
> What would be a good design/architecture'
> TIA...|||<Aaron>
Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the historic
descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actually
change.
</Aaron>
I need the historic descriptions for the reporting purposes only. Some of
the values could change 10 - 15 times a month.
Thanks
"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" wrote:
> Well, the invoices table should contain a relatively permanent piece of
> data, such as a ProductID of some kind, not a much more flexible piece of
> information like a description.
> That said, it may still be useful to store the history of a product.
> Probably the simplest in this very specific case would be:
> CREATE TABLE dbo.ProductDescriptionHistory
> (
> ProductID INT NOT NULL
> FOREIGN KEY REFERENCES dbo.Products(ProductID),
> Description VARCHAR(255),
> EffectiveDate SMALLDATETIME
> )
> This will allow you to reconstruct invoices from the past, with the correc
t
> "at the time" description, without bloating the invoices table with a big
> VARCHAR that will usually be redundant.
> You will probably come across the same dilemma with price... do you store
> price data for products where the price may or may not change, or do you
> just reference the productID?
> Your exact solution will at least partially depend on some of the
> information you haven't provided, such as exactly why you need the histori
c
> descriptions, what you're going to do with them, and how often they actual
ly
> change.
>
> "sqlster" <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:3F41C612-B1AB-441F-AED7-26F4C7ABEA09@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||Keep who changed the rows and when in separate columns in the archive table.
You might also want to keep a record of whether the row in the main table wa
s
updated or deleted.
E.g.:
Main table:
Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN
Archive table:
Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN : ChangedDateTime : ChangedBy : ChangeType
Of course changes are propagated to the archive table via triggers on the
main table (for update and for delete).
For a more elaborate solution, please at least provide DDL.
ML
http://milambda.blogspot.com/|||ML,
I am just looking for some books/websites/articles that address good history
table design. The example that I brought up is just a hypothetical example s
o
I don't have any DDL.
TIA..
"ML" wrote:
> Keep who changed the rows and when in separate columns in the archive tabl
e.
> You might also want to keep a record of whether the row in the main table
was
> updated or deleted.
> E.g.:
> Main table:
> Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN
> Archive table:
> Col1 : Col2 : ... : ColN : ChangedDateTime : ChangedBy : ChangeType
> Of course changes are propagated to the archive table via triggers on the
> main table (for update and for delete).
> For a more elaborate solution, please at least provide DDL.
>
> ML
> --
> http://milambda.blogspot.com/
Designing groups in multiple columns
hello,
> i am designing a grade report and i got a problem, the problem is that me divided the report into two columns, me grouped the records on the basis of semesters. now i want to show the first semester's records in first column and second semester's records in second column, then third semester's records in first column and so on.. but it doesn't hapens so. i want to set the layout of the group but there is not any option to set layout of the group.there is layout option for section but not for group. what me should do ? ? ?
iam desiginging one report for one student. each student have multiple semester and each semester consist of multiple subjects.I hace CR XI, go to details, section expert, layout with multiple columns, you should see a layout tab pop up in the upper right, click on it, you can control the direction the data flows as well as turn on, layout groups with multiple columns.
> i am designing a grade report and i got a problem, the problem is that me divided the report into two columns, me grouped the records on the basis of semesters. now i want to show the first semester's records in first column and second semester's records in second column, then third semester's records in first column and so on.. but it doesn't hapens so. i want to set the layout of the group but there is not any option to set layout of the group.there is layout option for section but not for group. what me should do ? ? ?
iam desiginging one report for one student. each student have multiple semester and each semester consist of multiple subjects.I hace CR XI, go to details, section expert, layout with multiple columns, you should see a layout tab pop up in the upper right, click on it, you can control the direction the data flows as well as turn on, layout groups with multiple columns.
designing for encryption ...
In light of SARBOX, ChoicePoint security breaches, identity theft etc, what
are some best practices regarding encryption and security of this type of
info? I know this is a pretty broad question, so links to other sites are
great, but I'd like to hear some personal experiences and opinions.
The reason is I have identified what I consider potential security problems
in our systems. I need to get get a sense of how critical these particular
issues are (I tend to take the position that hyper vigilence is best so for
me everything is critical) and get them in front of management to hopefully
get some action. But I always think it's best to have at least a proposal
for a solution when presenting a problem.
Anyway, any feedback is most appreciated.
Bob Castleman
DBA PoseurHere is a little something from a mind far greater than mine...
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_server...t_practices.htm
Peter
"The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being
read."
Winston Churchill
"Bob Castleman" wrote:
> In light of SARBOX, ChoicePoint security breaches, identity theft etc, wha
t
> are some best practices regarding encryption and security of this type of
> info? I know this is a pretty broad question, so links to other sites are
> great, but I'd like to hear some personal experiences and opinions.
> The reason is I have identified what I consider potential security problem
s
> in our systems. I need to get get a sense of how critical these particular
> issues are (I tend to take the position that hyper vigilence is best so fo
r
> me everything is critical) and get them in front of management to hopefull
y
> get some action. But I always think it's best to have at least a proposal
> for a solution when presenting a problem.
> Anyway, any feedback is most appreciated.
> Bob Castleman
> DBA Poseur
>
>|||SARBOX is not an area I'm expert in but one thing I know about security
is that it isn't the same as encryption. Encryption is just one tool
for security. So "designing for security" is something different from
"designing for encryption" and I would advise you to focus on the
former rather than the latter. As I understand it SARBOX does NOT
mandate that any data be encrypted it just requires "adequate" internal
controls.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||I believe that Sarbanes Oxley suggests or recommends all "Sensitive" data be
encrypted in a data store.
SSNs
Account Numbers
Visa Numbers
etc etc etc
I could be wrong (I'm not a SOX Audit expert either)
Greg Jackson
PDX, Oregon|||Not a lawyer or security expert but California law, SB 1386
(http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bi...86_bill_2002092
6_chaptered.html) mentions unencrypted data. It seems that if someone where
to breach your database and personal information was encrypted you would not
need to disclose the breach.
See [url]http://informationw
.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=10700814[/url]
for an overview...
"pdxJaxon" <GregoryAJackson@.Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I believe that Sarbanes Oxley suggests or recommends all "Sensitive" data
be
> encrypted in a data store.
> SSNs
> Account Numbers
> Visa Numbers
> etc etc etc
> I could be wrong (I'm not a SOX Audit expert either)
> Greg Jackson
> PDX, Oregon
>
are some best practices regarding encryption and security of this type of
info? I know this is a pretty broad question, so links to other sites are
great, but I'd like to hear some personal experiences and opinions.
The reason is I have identified what I consider potential security problems
in our systems. I need to get get a sense of how critical these particular
issues are (I tend to take the position that hyper vigilence is best so for
me everything is critical) and get them in front of management to hopefully
get some action. But I always think it's best to have at least a proposal
for a solution when presenting a problem.
Anyway, any feedback is most appreciated.
Bob Castleman
DBA PoseurHere is a little something from a mind far greater than mine...
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_server...t_practices.htm
Peter
"The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being
read."
Winston Churchill
"Bob Castleman" wrote:
> In light of SARBOX, ChoicePoint security breaches, identity theft etc, wha
t
> are some best practices regarding encryption and security of this type of
> info? I know this is a pretty broad question, so links to other sites are
> great, but I'd like to hear some personal experiences and opinions.
> The reason is I have identified what I consider potential security problem
s
> in our systems. I need to get get a sense of how critical these particular
> issues are (I tend to take the position that hyper vigilence is best so fo
r
> me everything is critical) and get them in front of management to hopefull
y
> get some action. But I always think it's best to have at least a proposal
> for a solution when presenting a problem.
> Anyway, any feedback is most appreciated.
> Bob Castleman
> DBA Poseur
>
>|||SARBOX is not an area I'm expert in but one thing I know about security
is that it isn't the same as encryption. Encryption is just one tool
for security. So "designing for security" is something different from
"designing for encryption" and I would advise you to focus on the
former rather than the latter. As I understand it SARBOX does NOT
mandate that any data be encrypted it just requires "adequate" internal
controls.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||I believe that Sarbanes Oxley suggests or recommends all "Sensitive" data be
encrypted in a data store.
SSNs
Account Numbers
Visa Numbers
etc etc etc
I could be wrong (I'm not a SOX Audit expert either)
Greg Jackson
PDX, Oregon|||Not a lawyer or security expert but California law, SB 1386
(http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bi...86_bill_2002092
6_chaptered.html) mentions unencrypted data. It seems that if someone where
to breach your database and personal information was encrypted you would not
need to disclose the breach.
See [url]http://informationw
.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=10700814[/url]for an overview...
"pdxJaxon" <GregoryAJackson@.Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23Jf3G$8LFHA.576@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> I believe that Sarbanes Oxley suggests or recommends all "Sensitive" data
be
> encrypted in a data store.
> SSNs
> Account Numbers
> Visa Numbers
> etc etc etc
> I could be wrong (I'm not a SOX Audit expert either)
> Greg Jackson
> PDX, Oregon
>
designing for both pdf and excel rendering
A report I designed looked perfect html and pdf but when exported to excel it chops off the last column when printed. Does the report grow when exported to excel? How can I fix this? If I change the margins it fixes on the excel side but then the page doesn't look right on the pdf side. Thank you in advance for any help.Microsoft any suggestions please.
Designing dimensions and partitions on heavy loaded dimensions
I need your help designing a complex AS solution.
Here's the story -
My application is a hosted BI solution meant to serve several customers on a single machine.
Most of the data of my customers is not sharable / has no reason to share (For instance - customer1 products has not intersection with customer2 products)
There are few and small dimensions that are common to everyone - for instance: geographic and time dimensions.
I was thinking of two options to approach such a problem, I’d like to hear you opinion on them:
1. One DB for several (~10) customers (meaning VERY big dimensions > 15M).
Using lot of where [Customers].[CustomerX] and non empty in any of the queries to programmatically separate data.
Setting partitions slicing per customer and month.
One connection string.
2. Separate DB for each customer (meaning complex maintenance)
Products (for example) dimension is always specific to a single customer.
Setting different connection strings for each customer and physically separate all dimensions on different files.
More details to take into consideration:
The application consists of 10 dimensions, 3 of them are VERY big: ~3M per customer.
As for partitions - few 10s of millions of facts per customer per month.
It's difficult to say what is best, this is not really a typical application.
I would tend to lean away from option 1. Using a single connection string and trying to filter manually would be prone to errors and if users were able to execute any sort of adhoc queries they might be able to circumvent your "security". I would use multiple connections and setup some sort of role bases security instead and this would imply using multiple connections.
If all/most of the dimensions were shared, I would say put the data in one cube (with plenty of partitions) and use security roles to restrict access. If nothing significant can be shared, in my opinion, I would think that multiple databases would be better, but this is not a situation I have had to deal with myself.
I have the following issues with a single database solution:
What happens if you need to scale out to multiple SSAS servers? With Multiple DBs it would be relatively easy to shift some of them to another server.
What about backup/restore - SSAS 2005 has issues where backs take exponentially longer as the database gets larger.
What happens when corrupt/incorrect data gets loaded for one customer and you need to re-process? Do you want to take down all customer access or just that to the affected customer?
If the bulk of the data is not shared, you are not saving much memory by consolidating multiple customers into one database.
Formulas might need to be calculated across the entire cube subspace regardless of the customer, before a "non-empty" can be performed significantly reducing performance.
If you have products from multiple customers in one cube you could get clashes where different customers have different products with the same name.
Designing Date and Time Dimension
I need to display reports based on an SSAS cube which requires both date and time as input parameters.
I'd like to know what is the best practice while designing dimensions in such a scenario. Do i need to design a separate dimension for date ( quarter, year, month, week, day) and time ( hour, minute, second) ?
Or will having just the date dimension with the date key pointing to the full datetime in the fact table suffice?
I guess there is no correct answer to this question, but in my opinion you should design two dimensions - one for the dates and one for the seconds (with related attributes, of course). If you put it all in one dimension, your time dimension would consist of 60 x 60 x 24 x 365 = 31,536,000 members for each year (!!!), whereas if you make two separate dimensions, you have a date dimension with 365 members for each year and a time dimension with 86,400 members (constant). This will be much more performant and simple to work with in most cases.
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